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 Dec 29 2008, 09:43 AM
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It's probably not as thin as it looks, because good 3rd baseman, in general, are rare. They are, by far, the least represented position in the HOF.
Stan Hack is a borderline HOF candidate: career .300 hitter, slick glove man, 5-time All-Star, got MVP votes in 8 seasons. His career OPS+ of 119 compares favorably with HOF 3rd basemen Brooks Robinson (104), Pie Traynor (107), Freddie Lindstrom (109), George Kell (111), and Jimmy Collins (113).
Santo is a freaking HOFer. It's a shame, really. Five-time Gold-glover, 125 OPS+ hitter...compare that to these other guys, it's laughable.
As for the Cubs, I do recall that between Santo and Aramis, we had about 35 different guys who tried to fill the position, didn't we?
One more name for ya: Harry Steinfeldt. The other guy in the Tinker-Evers-Chance infield.
Had there been an All-Star game in those days, he'd have likely been an AS...was in the NL top-ten in OPS a couple times, led the league in hits and RBI once, played in 4 World Series, had an MVP-calibre season when the Cubs won 116 games in 1906. Plus, he's the answer to a common trivia question!
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-My choices in life were either to be a piano player in a whore house or a politician, and to tell the truth, there's hardly any difference- President Harry S. Truman
-He's listed as day-to-day...aren't we all? -Vin Scully
-Will Rogers said: "A man only learns in two ways, one by reading, and the other by association with smarter people.
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Dec 29 2008, 09:56 AM
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QUOTE (KBwsb @ Dec 29 2008, 09:43 AM)  It's probably not as thin as it looks, because good 3rd baseman, in general, are rare. They are, by far, the least represented position in the HOF.
Stan Hack is a borderline HOF candidate: career .300 hitter, slick glove man, 5-time All-Star, got MVP votes in 8 seasons. His career OPS+ of 119 compares favorably with HOF 3rd basemen Brooks Robinson (104), Pie Traynor (107), Freddie Lindstrom (109), George Kell (111), and Jimmy Collins (113).
Santo is a freaking HOFer. It's a shame, really. Five-time Gold-glover, 125 OPS+ hitter...compare that to these other guys, it's laughable.
As for the Cubs, I do recall that between Santo and Aramis, we had about 35 different guys who tried to fill the position, didn't we?
One more name for ya: Harry Steinfeldt. The other guy in the Tinker-Evers-Chance infield.
Had there been an All-Star game in those days, he'd have likely been an AS...was in the NL top-ten in OPS a couple times, led the league in hits and RBI once, played in 4 World Series, had an MVP-calibre season when the Cubs won 116 games in 1906. Plus, he's the answer to a common trivia question! harry steinfeldt was a much better player than tinkers, evers, or chance, but he didn't get a gay poem written about him so he doesn't get in the hall of fame. anyhoo, based on what i've seen: 1. aramis ramirez 2. ron cey 3. ryne sandberg 4. vance law. 5. bill mueller wow is that pathetic. ryno was thirdbaseman his first full year, so he gets a nod. vance law gets a vote becuase he made the all star team one year at third base. i replaced keith moreland with bill mueller. tore up his leg making a great catch, went to boston the next year and won a batting title. typical.
This post has been edited by veryzer: Dec 29 2008, 12:04 PM
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Dec 29 2008, 09:57 AM
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QUOTE (KBwsb @ Dec 29 2008, 09:43 AM) It's probably not as thin as it looks, because good 3rd baseman, in general, are rare. They are, by far, the least represented position in the HOF.
Stan Hack is a borderline HOF candidate: career .300 hitter, slick glove man, 5-time All-Star, got MVP votes in 8 seasons. His career OPS+ of 119 compares favorably with HOF 3rd basemen Brooks Robinson (104), Pie Traynor (107), Freddie Lindstrom (109), George Kell (111), and Jimmy Collins (113).
Santo is a freaking HOFer. It's a shame, really. Five-time Gold-glover, 125 OPS+ hitter...compare that to these other guys, it's laughable.
As for the Cubs, I do recall that between Santo and Aramis, we had about 35 different guys who tried to fill the position, didn't we?
One more name for ya: Harry Steinfeldt. The other guy in the Tinker-Evers-Chance infield.
Had there been an All-Star game in those days, he'd have likely been an AS...was in the NL top-ten in OPS a couple times, led the league in hits and RBI once, played in 4 World Series, had an MVP-calibre season when the Cubs won 116 games in 1906. Plus, he's the answer to a common trivia question! harry steinfeldt was a much better player than tinkers, evers, or chance, but he didn't get a gay poem written about him so he doesn't get in the hall of fame. anyhoo, based on what i've seen: 1. aramis ramirez 2. ron cey 3. ryne sandberg 4. vnce law. 5. keith moreland wow is that pathetic. ryno was thirdbaseman his first full year, so he gets a nod. vance law gets a vote becuase he made the all star team one year at third base. keith moreland gets a vote because even though he was a brutal thirdbaseman and i think he only played there for a year, he did hit 27 home runs.
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Dec 29 2008, 10:04 AM
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QUOTE (Nexus @ Dec 29 2008, 10:00 AM) QUOTE As for the Cubs, I do recall that between Santo and Aramis, we had about 35 different guys who tried to fill the position, didn't we? Sadly it was very flavor of the month. Makes you appreciate a player like Aramis a lot more. One of the many reasons that I was glad that Jim got him signed. And with a home-town discount, to boot! Aramis has been a huge feather in Jim's cap...that still stands as the best trade of his tenure.
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-My choices in life were either to be a piano player in a whore house or a politician, and to tell the truth, there's hardly any difference- President Harry S. Truman
-He's listed as day-to-day...aren't we all? -Vin Scully
-Will Rogers said: "A man only learns in two ways, one by reading, and the other by association with smarter people.
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